Originally Posted by
Nomde plume
Why wouldn’t ATS give conflicting traffic at 6000’ when JQF called taxi for departure at 7000’?
AIP GEN 3.3
2.16.1.1 An IFR flight reporting taxiing or airborne at a non-controlled aerodrome will be advised of conflicting IFR traffic which is not on the CTAF.
JQF gave a taxi call at 1111 - I’m assuming that with the location of the collision at 1124 that would have given AEM an ETA of around 1126?
MATS Criteria for traffic at taxi call is anyone within 10mins.
Report doesn’t mention whether or not additional attempts were made to contact JQF for a traffic update prior to departure or whether AEM reported changing to the CTAF and had established 2 way comms? Would be good to know if either occured.
What can often happen is outbound aircraft taxies, gets told no ifr traffic as next inbound is 15 odd mins away, takes longer than expected to depart (10 mins after taxi call is when sar alerting process begins) inbound aircraft gets given traffic on pending departure, told they are on the CTAF and not aware of you inbound.. then outbound aircraft gives departure call and says we copied inbound aircraft on the CTAF..