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Old 8th Apr 2020, 10:00
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Not_a_boffin
 
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Originally Posted by ORAC
If the RN had asked for conventional large carriers with conventional aircraft they wouldn’t have got them. In the same way they wouldn’t have got conventional carriers in the 1970s rather than “through deck cruisers”.

Ask for new VSTOL carriers to replace the Ark Royal class - but just bigger, because steel is cheap and they’re really just big empty boxes. Ask for JSF to replace the SHar because they’re wearing out - and the USA say they are going to be cheap. Then work up from there. The step to switch to the C and fit EMALS was screwed by BAe.....
If only all the independent (ie not RN) force level operational analysis conducted in the mid and late 90s hadn't said that :
1. Carriers were needed and
2. They needed to deliver a decent sortie count, which meant a decent number of aircraft, which meant they had to be of a certain size, which meant that CTOL configuration became an option

STOVL was always the baseline choice for a number of reasons, primarily to do with training burden and force size, together with the perceived risk of EMALS (immaturity) or steam (sustainability) catapults. CTOL was a fallback option because of the perceived performance risk of the B-variant, enabled by the size of the ship which was driven by deck park arrangement for reduced manning. It did have advantages in both variety of potential aircraft and MASC capability. For a brief period when the B looked in real trouble, it was a good option to have, given 1 and 2 above.

The brief CTOL switch and then reversion was made too late (by about 3 or 4 years) to make it affordable, although I'm reasonably sure that the ACA over-egged the conversion costs to make certain.

The total spent and budgetted to date on both QEC and F35B are still significantly less than that on Typhoon - moreso if one considers NPV.

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