Originally Posted by
waco
…....that's the point I'm trying to make we lack credible effect leadership
But isn't that always the way?. In WW2 we started off with Chamberlain who many thought was insipidly useless, then we moved on to Churchill that many held the opinion was a warmongering drunkard, then in the 70's we had Sunny Jim Callaghan (Crisis? - what Crisis?), in the 80's we had strong leadership from the Iron Lady and half the country hated her!.
Have we every had credible effective leadership in a crisis?