Here in the good ole US of A, we A-300 B4 operators use 0 flap,16 degrees of slat for take off, unless flaps 8 is required for T.O.i.e, short runway.. .While we were all sitting in GS for this plane, we thought it a bit odd that we were using no flaps for take off, but like all bus operators, we must trust the way Airbus thinks, and do the Airbus recomended thing, no matter how wierd it seems. This airplane is impressive with a full load and no flaps for take off. That would be a "good" impressive, as opposed to the "other" impressive.(scary)