Ah but just imagine a Classic freighter with the add-on 'bendy bits + Trent 500's hung under the wing. . .. .Keep the F/E in place for his fund of stories,tea making skills and the ability to draw on his deeply ingrained knowledge of all things mechanical when things go t*ts-up.. .. .Oh and yes - he can also fight a main-deck cargo fire which can be a bit of an iffy exercise on a two crew 400F.. . . . <small>[ 12 March 2002, 10:47: Message edited by: Fr8t M8te ]</small>