After one such incident where the "old fart" (as you put it) kicked the bucket mid flight, there was much questioning amongst the other captains in the bar that night as to how the F/O managed to land the plane all by himself. Meanwhile, the "hero" F/O was asked by another F/O, "Good job on getting it down by yourself, but how could you tell he was dead?" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />