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Old 24th Feb 2020, 07:20
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Originally Posted by Cessna Jockey
I could be wrong, but it’s probably safe to say it the crew were probably not at their best by that stage of their duty...
The ATSB normally include Fatigue in many investigations, and if crew did/did not feel any form of fatigue on the said shift. They normally also state the duty crew were flying, previous days etc..We don't know this but your point is very valid, the fact that Positive Climb/Gear Up was missed, but they thought they said it, reeks of Fatigue.

However there is nothing in there nor anything surrounding crew hours or total time.

If they did accept a fatigue issue in some form, I would expect the ATSB to include that in the report, not private discussions between itself and the operator on if they want this info put into a public final report. That sort of rubbish and cover up I would expect in some neighbouring countries. If they didn't acknowledge any form of Fatigue and were well rested, then they need to state this also. For the benefit of all.
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