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Old 2nd Feb 2020, 08:15
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Originally Posted by pilotsun
FR has altitude over 2000 at that point and the ceiling at that time was between 1000-1300 depending on who you listen to. That would be well into the soup.
If you're saying 2000 is much greater than 1300, it's not that straightforward.

FR/ADS-B altitude is Pressure Altitude (29.92 inHg). Need to add about 220 ft to correct for local pressure (VNY altimeter 30.16).

Ceiling is AGL. Elevation at 101 & Las Virgenes is ~800 ft.

But the ceiling in the mountains could be very different than the ceiling quoted by VNY ATC.

NY Times quoted witnesses saying the clouds were 300 ft AGL at the time of the crash.


Originally Posted by n5296s
For what it's worth (thanks Google Street View) I'm pretty sure the doorbell cam is at 4304 Oak Glen St. That puts it about 400 feet off the flight path, according to the ADS-B data. The timing is just right. If the ADS-B data is to be fully believed, they were already in a 2000+ ft/min descent and 45 degree or so bank at that point.
There may have been multiple doorbell cam videos, but the one I saw started at 9:45:01 am PST, which was +1280 fpm ascent at that time.
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