"Speaking of the Eurofighter's close-in combat prowess, Major Marc Grüne, CO of 742 (Zapata), the second squadron of the wing, described to assembled aviation journalists how, on a recent visit to France to demo the aircraft, he had won two out of two battles against the Dassault Rafale in mock within visual range dogfights. Both fights were a standard set-up and merge at 21,000ft and 30,000ft he recounted, adding that the higher the fight the better the Eurofighter liked it. He singled out the Eurofighter's excess power as its trump card over the Rafale....."
"Rafale is a great, versatile, multi-role jet, and it does most things better than the aircraft it replaced. But in air to air its a slightly sh*t Hornet - dangerous if you get suckered into a low speed, high alpha fight, but lacking in 'grunt' and no match for a Typhoon....."
"Tubs (even with three bags) would have been adequate to beat Rafales if they hadn't been flown by Jagmates on a QWI course who had little ACM experience......"