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Old 24th Jan 2020, 05:23
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[QUOTE=retired guy;10669859]
Originally Posted by RetiredBA/BY
.....and even more important that basic handling skills are improved by many operators.

I have never flown a. NG but we had none of the current electronics in a -200, we managed perfectly
well but the arrival of the -300 made life even easier.

Sad to see the decline in basic skills of so many operators, almost all cost driven.[/QUOTE]

BA
On the money, literally, with that post. Saving money on safety will always end in tears. “ if you think safety is expensive, try having two accidents!” Ask Boeing , even though they were not entirely to blame as there were many other factors.
And if Boeing were an airline that suffered two related crashes, or even unrelated, it’s bye bye. Billions of dollars and years of investment gone in a few weeks maybe. No jobs. So sad.
And the cost of real safety v lip service to safety is not high. Maybe 2\5 % of turnover. Measured against the cost of Armaggedonn as faced by Boeing currently its an easy form of insurance.
look fwd to any views on that sort of thing.
Safe flying
RvGuy
With respect,
Since you have never flown the NG, and by your account only the -200, then these two variants are world's apart from the MAX.
I don't know if you have read the entire threads on the ET accident or the Lion Air, but in the flight envelope the crew were faced with they couldn't manage to control the pitch down movements of the stab provided by MCAS due to it's incorrect triggering.
Because of the lack of technical information provided by Boeing to pilots of the MAX, one would assume that no matter where you were trained or from what part of the world that you reside, fundamentally the airplane didn't react in the same way a normal NG would.
There were additional "nuisance cautions" sounding off (and other warnings) which weren't normal for a "stab" runaway situation as compared with the NG or earlier series.
Many human factors and cockpit design errors will come to light from these two tragedies and make modern transport planes even more safer and user friendly.

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