Originally Posted by
retired guy
Hi Old Dogs
My guess is because after the AD post Lionair, it was known about and Boeing said “;treat it like a runaway stab” which most assuredly it is. “ Continuously” means without stopping, or a quick succession of similar events.
“my wife nags we continuously “. Presumably she draws breath between each bout of nagging? But it will eventually cause you to lose the will to live. And vice versa for the PC types. Men can nag too.
similarly a stabilizer which runs AND , over and over , always in the same direction, with a very short pause is by any definition in the dictionary “:Continuous” yes?
Especially since we all studied that AD assiduously post Lionair to make sure a similar fate would not befall us.
thats how we stay safe. Learn from others. These days more than ever we need to learn from the published errors which are available on line every day on the likes of of AV HERALD and AEROINSIDE free of charge.
Everyday I read about maybe 15/major incidents. Some handled brilliantly. Others leave something that might have been done much better. FYI every day there are around three engine failures and a rising number of smoke fume events- some really nasty. Loads of learning free of charge.
Safe Flying
R Guy
Still laughing, not at you... well said. married life, and the will to live.
So the pilots are supposed to be the fault, even after the SB was raised, which of course added all the information that was needed to manage the defect, except, did anyone mention the manual trim would be unable to be overpowered? Ooops, nope, weasel legal terms applied, fly to trim speed.... yep, about 500KIAS, How about the fact that the trim rate of MCAS was 1/2 an order of magnitude greater than the rate of manual trim? Nope. Not a word of that. Why? as the manufacturer didn't know what had been done or the impact operationally. Yet, our reporters at large blame a 300hr pilot for... what? being a young pilot? Is that a compliance issue? is there a law out there that you cannot be a pilot until you have 10,000 hours command on... whatever? You have to be 101 years old in order to have the experience necessary to make up for a goatF&#@ in the design of the aircraft by experts?
We assume that Boeing, FAA, EASA and the rest have some skills, so how come the fault is the pilot when everyone else missed the issue?
GT needs to learn about causation, or get a pacifier and go sit in a corner.
As mentioned previously, if it was just the pilot then the plane would already be flying... and we would have a training program implemented for GT's incompetent crews. If there is a god, then perhaps that god will give GT the pleasure of dealing with a unknown flight control problem airborne. From my experience, it will give some clarity to your religious beliefs promptly. Try being in a life threatening situation dealing with a system that does not respond to your training, or the sage advice just provided by the OEM which just happens to be missing a couple of salient points.