Flanker. yeah, you can see how I got my name! I don't mean to come across as a knowitall, for I am most definitely not one of them. I am trying to make the argument for the opposite position, so I guess I am not making my point very well. The discussion started as a Fire drill, sure, but if you apply an altitude requirement to that, why not to all recall drills? Do you think the average guy would know the difference?