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Old 28th Dec 2019, 17:44
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Originally Posted by Strumble Head
A quick thank you to the informed sources who have commented to date (and those to come.) As a confirmed PPRuNe lurker with long experience in various facets of aviation ops, it was a shock to me to realise that I'd never had to get into the fine detail of what determines the need for de-icing on the ground, nor how it gets done in today's world.

So the steers to relevant sources have been invaluable. I've also been reminded that safe operations in icing or snowy conditions are very expensive in time, direct cost and indirect cost (people time, reduced throughput etc.)

This brought back a memory of being SLF on a jet where the first de-icing was not successful. There were well-meant if ignorant suggestions from some (management) quarters, keen to see the aircraft depart, that 'most' areas met standard and this was good enough.

This provoked some very very blunt responses for which I am now even more grateful. Classic situation where ground engineering and/or PIC can come under an awful lot of pressure to cut corners.
Just to further your post, in a previous company I worked for we used to charge about $5 a litre of de-ice/anti ice fluid and approx $400 vehicle callout fee. On a frost, you're looking about 250-300 litres on a mid size jet. On a snow day, anything upwards of 1000 litres


Not sure what the costs are like these days, tho
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