Rattman, totally agree. Filling sand bags (ohh for those days) does not require a lot of training. Providing food, fuel, shelter backup in transportation all good and easy things that can reduce the work load on the fighters. We provide humanitarian aid utilising the skills that the ADF have.The requirement for OH&S is real but also at times red tape, "you have to complete a chain saw course and be certified" is ??. Fair enough even though you have been using a chain saw for 20+ years. No question on training but considering the helo assets we have and the training that is done from night ops, confined spaces, under slung loads, etc its not a large stretch of the imagination that a wee bit more training in water dropping would not be an excessive task.