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Old 20th Dec 2019, 20:21
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Emma Royds
 
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Originally Posted by Pif Paf
And for those of you out there that imagine that we go to all these lovely places and have lots of time off down route then stop, take a deep breath and take off the rose coloured glasses!
We do three man Boston flights on the 777 because its legal ....just - the max FDP = Scheduled flight time plus the report time ie any delay = discretion!! Yes 3 pilots, 13hour 30minute flight Dubai to Boston, 24 hours off and then a 12hour 15 minute return!
Most layovers are 24 hours, usually at an airport hotel.
Between some flights I have done 18 hours in Dubai, so not even 24 hours at home!

Don't expect to get anything you bid for on your rosters, you might be lucky but generally you will not get what you want! It used to be a system where you could bid for a place or country you wanted to go to and you has a good chance of getting it! Since the system changed a couple of years ago, this ability to bid is still there but because of the way EK is using the system, our preferences are the lowest priority so you rarely get what you want!! In the past more priority was given to our preferences, now the system just gives you what it wants!

We have no support from management on our rosters, they can't help even if they wanted to (which they don't!). Flight ops ie the managers in charge of the pilots (Chief pilot , SVP, DSVP), have NO input into rosters, its run by a different department - Network Control and they don't give a damn about flight ops / pilots inputs and Flt ops have no influence or authority on them! So even if you need your flights changed you will get little or no help!

Worry less about if the wife can work, where will I live etc, worry more about can I survive the rosters, flying lots, going to places I don't bid for, getting frustrated at work, spending little time at home and knowing that nothing is going to fundamentally change no matter how long I stay at Emirates!

Happy Christmas one and all
In all fairness, the majority of destination hotels are still in the city but the balance is tipping the wrong way slowly but surely. The boys and girls in the cabin will be in for a shock when they go to MEX!!!

Even with three guys, I never found BOS to be as punishing as some other trips, since the layover is 31hrs and I would prefer more time in a proper bed than in the bunk. One example of what I consider to be farcical rostering is the likes of ADL, when the layover period is shorter than the combined block time!

Originally Posted by 2Reverse
Has anyone gotten so fed up that they left before the 5 year bond ended? And then didn’t pay back the owned amount? Just curious what would happen.
The only way you can do that is to disappear on a layover or leave the country in your own time and not return. As has previously been said, you will be detained if you enter the country again if you have outstanding debts. It seems to happen rarely.

Last edited by Emma Royds; 20th Dec 2019 at 20:35.
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