Flyin Dutch.......my sentiments exactly.
He's a guy who is learning and he was looking for an answer to a simple question.
I have removed myself from this forum for a couple of weeks now due to the bickering, "cleverness" and "I should be an instructor" attitude that so many people seem to be adopting on these threads.
Reading this thread so far from start to finish I wouldn't be surprised if the Flying Spice decided to take up macrami or windsurfing instead.
It seems to have become a test of everyones knowledge at any expense or opportunity recently, and it 'aint what it used to be here.
Spiceman, if you want to use the PAPI's then use them. I expect your instructor will soon get you off them with some PAPI patches or something so you'll be nicely prepared for your first Compton Abbas trip where they line up the sheep in a similar shape.