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Old 11th Dec 2019, 02:08
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compressor stall
 
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More reversing of the truth truck.
Originally Posted by ampan
. So you would turn right, would you not? Especially if your co-pilot, sitting on the right with a better view, says it's clear to the right. in response, Collins said "No negative". What did he mean by that? We know exactly what he meant, because he then pulled out the Heading Select knob and initiated a turn, to the right. To the right. Towards where the high ground was supposed to be.
Well Ampman, I suggest you go back and read the Chippendale report again.

15 seconds prior to impact, the Copilot says he can see Ross Island.
12 Seconds prior Copilot says clear to turn right, there's no high ground
8 seconds prior to impact the heading knob is pulled out that commands a turn to the right.
It's not time stamped to the second but between 12 seconds and 6 seconds before impact, after some chatter, Collins says "No, negative" and initiates a turn to the left. That is what the aircraft was about to start doing when it hit (it had reversed the roll and was roughly wings level). It is highly likely that this "No - negative" was in response to a decision not to go right, and coincided with commencing a turn to the left.

He did NOT say "No negative" then turn right. The timestamps outline that he started a right turn, then changed his mind. Possibly - although we will never know - the penny might have dropped as to the position and he realised Mt Bird was to the right. but sadly all too late.

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