Easy Street , sadly I agree with much of what you say. I also think raising the recruitment age for Pilots to 26 and WSO/WSOp to 33 was a bad idea as that exacerbates the issues to which you refer. Even joining at 22 I was behind the drag curve when I joined up way back. Also, the shifting of the 16/38 pension to 18/40 and then 20/40 has also shifted the goal posts somewhat (although the Baldricks came forward from 22 to 20, which was a good thing). So minor dabbling here and there, with pay, pension, entry age, training system, redundancies and terms of service changes, without understand the collective 2nd and 3rd order effects, has left things in a bit of tangle (understatement!).