Originally Posted by
Asturias56
Rome lasted for a good 500 years after the death of Caesar. The "fall of the Roman Empire" as described has some elements of truth but actually sounds more like Asimov's "Foundation" analysis to me
Timelines move now massively quicker than in Roman and pre Jet age times. The Black Death originated in Asia and wound its war with armies / traders over the Steppes before reaching Europe and then tranmitted by people. This took decade or two from China to UK, armies and their entourage moved slowly. These days an outbreak of something in Asia could be in London in 1 day. News of wars would take years to filter each way. Today it is couple of minutes.
A collapse could be in 100 years or less than 10, I would hope for way longer than the former but fear the latter as people break away into smaller governable areas with like minded people. The more urbanised the world becomes the more easier it is to control / destroy.
In Roman times, North Africa was the breadbasket of the empire for growing things, now it is no chance. Climate change has been around for a long time.
There is an abscence of leadership in the west, that is not going to change.