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Old 2nd Nov 2019, 04:20
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Takwis
 
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The original type cert on the 1967 B737 didn't have nudgers/stick push; Thus the MAX doesn't have this safety feature, which in hindsight would have been important in the outcome of both these accidents.

None of these 737 prior or new (NG/MAX) had stick pushers, only stick shakers.
Exactly. The 707-100s (original type cert) did not have a stick pusher/nudger. Nor did the -200. But the -400 did. Same 'type'. Same type rating. So I don't see why the 737-100/200/300/400/500/600/700/800/900 not having a stick pusher would rule out a 737MAX having a stick pusher, and still be the same "type". It's got different engines, a hopped up nose gear, massive flat panel screens, and TWO (count them) TWO white position lights on the tailcone forgodsake.* If they can do all that to it, a little stick pusher lurking in the background shouldn't have made a difference.

And on another note, if installing a system like MCAS, far more powerful than a stick pusher, was sort of sneaked in, leaving it out of the pilot manuals, not disclosing to the FAA the full authority that it had, to keep it under the same type, don't you see that as horribly, in fact criminally dishonest?


*That was an important training topic. But MCAS was left out.
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