Originally Posted by
LeadSled
flighthappens,
Do you understand that most of the "promulgated" restricted airspace beyond the 12 mile limit has absolutely no legal standing, another Australian conceit, it is international airspace.
You are probably not aware that US forces frequently make the point by operating in this airspace without a "clearance". They politely advise of their intentions, but do not request any permissions.
Put another way, they treat Australia exactly the same way as China within international waters/airspace in the South China Sea.
Tootle pip!!
Sqawk7700,
You miss the whole point, most of the on shore restricted airspace should not be restricted at all, eliminating most of the need for the negotiations, to which you refer.
You are grateful for being thrown crumbs ---- sad.
Just have a look at the standard size for a US or NATO/RAF zone, compared to here.
As to "light", GA, RAOz, and all the other alphabet soup orgs.
And to further disappoint you, my RAOz membership and medical is all up to date.
yep. Aware of the 12NM territorial limit, yet the Australian FIR extends far beyond this.
I’m also aware that the US has many ‘W’ airspace areas outside of 12NM. Within their FIR.
I’ve heard you trot out this ‘fact’ many times. Personally I never seen, nor heard, of a US aircraft conducting essentially what is a FONOP through Australian ‘R’ designated offshore airspace. It is completely counter to why they come to visit (enhance cooperation, integration, and build relationships). If it is as frequent as what you say I’m sure you will provide some good evidence....
im still struggling to see how and why your average GA guy is effected by this?
