Originally Posted by
ACMS
yes agree, now factor in that:-
The CX crew were not in “their own backyard”
The CX crew had flown 12 hours through their night time and were arriving at a circadian low period.
The CX crew may only do 2 to 3 PF sectors a month.
The CX crew have to deal with many many different ATC systems all over the World and cannot be expected to be familiar or current on SFO’s quirky procedures that they may only be exposed to once every six months.
The UA crew are exactly the opposite, flying a LOT of sectors in their own backyard and probably frequently into SFO.
This is exactly why SFO ATC should NEVER use this type of visual approach with foreign Long Haul carriers....... ever.
Some countries ATC will not allow visual approaches by foreign Carriers into their Airports following previous incidents for exactly the above reasons I mention above.
They didn't turn to the heading as instructed, they accepted the visual approach clearance. The one thing i dislike most about the US is the failure to accept personal responsibility (you can sue McD if the coffee is too hot), pls don't use this excuse, the missed the turn, and accepted the clearance, and fd up.