Originally Posted by
mike current
That's not what happened.
The controller requested 180 or greater to 5.
The pilot said he was unable and suggested 160 or greater to 5.
I think 160 or greater to 5 at 11 DME is maybe slightly on the slow side but perfectly acceptable.
Nonetheless mike you didn't answer the question 'did he need to be that slow that far out?' because you don't know either. And if he didn't, her plan would've worked. All she did was ask "ok but I need more than 160 from now so when are you going to slow to 160?". To my mind a completely reasonable question when he was still at 12 dme.