Originally Posted by
yanrair
Good evening Byros.
I don't think you have been paying attention to the thousands of postings on this forum. They fall into three main groups and none have a right to claim the moral high ground yet since we don't really know, do we? So you asserting that 'Boeing prioritizes profits above safety, the FAA is infiltrated by Boeing, " is a touch in dodgy territory I would suspect.
CAMPS
1 Boeing is the devil and deliberately created a flawed machine and are wholly culpable for everything that happened. Boeing should hang its head in shame. FAA too.
2 Boeing created a very good plane with a bad fault which went to to contribute to two crashes, which however were avoidable if the pilots had acted correctly. Remember that the first Lionair did land safely. So fix the Max AND train the rest of the world's pilots to a higher standard.
3 As per 2/ above but that it was not recoverable or avoidable by an "average pilot". So if we fix the MCAS on the Max, problem solved. No need for further training except of course to do a course on how MCAS works in its new incarnation.,
You seem to be in camp 1 with a dash of Camp 3 thrown in.
I really wish you were correct because in two months or so, in your view, it will all be over and the fix will be in place and nothing like this will happen again.
Unless and until we get another multiple failure like AF 447, or ET or Turkish 738 at AMS, (and many others) where the pilots are "overwhelmed". QF 32 was a situation which could have overwhelmed the crew were it not for their training and airmanship.
And note that AF and QF were not Boeings.
Cheers
Yan
1 Boeing is the devil and deliberately created a flawed machine and are wholly culpable for everything that happened. Boeing should hang its head in shame. FAA too.
No boeing did NOT deliberately create a flawed machine - they did it in the name of schedule and profit and cost decisions made by incompetent people in command posItions in both FAA and Boeing. Those that disagreed were ignored, and others were never informed as to ' subtle changes - again all in the service of schedule and profit and bonus coupled with a fair amount of ignorance. There is absolutely NO excuse for allowing a single sensor to HAL the pilot and the aircraft.
And the rest of the game re legalese wordsmithing the manual and explanations is nearly as bad. Adk why the yo yo game was deleted many decades ago from the manuals and the training, and why no notice re the limits on speed and stab angle were such that the manual trim was an impossible ' solution' unless neutral trim was first accomplished.
As to the crew and the continued bit about IF IDA coulda woulda shouda .... pushed by CEO and legal types - its all about the $$$$$. period !