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Old 5th Oct 2019, 16:45
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pilotmike
 
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Originally Posted by LowObservable
But that isn't the trim runaway procedure, is it? Because the FTFA-fundies have been banging away at "just use the trim runaway procedure" here and elsewhere. Granted, this is a great way to handle a spurious MCAS operation, but first you have to be trained to understand MCAS as something that is not a runaway.

Very true. And also you really need to be 'trained' to know that MCAS even exists (read "informed by Boeing of the very existence of MCAS")

What yanrair has effectively done is to invent his / her own procedure, to deal with a serious problem, with the benefit of 20:20 hindsight. How very convenient. How dreadfully inconvenient there was no knowledge (ensured by Boeing) of the existence of MCAS at the time of the 2 terrible crashes with hundreds of fatalities.

The procedure yanrair with perfect hindsight would love everybody to have used (runaway trim) was neither indicated in its usual form, nor was it the specified procedure to deal with failed MCAS, for no better reason than there NEVER HAS BEEN any procedure for dealing with the secret MCAS system that Boeing didn't want pilots to know about. Now, faced with the 'inconvenience' that even the frequently-touted runaway trim procedure would not have done what he /she has always it to do for rogue MCAS, they have gone off on another tangential 'test pilot' direction to invent and specify a revised procedure, based on the runaway trim, tailored and modified to suit their goals of 'knowing how they would easily have dealt with a rogue MCAS', all with the benefit of hindsight and many months after the tragic events, with all that time to think it all through.

Sadly, the affected crews didn't have any of that privileged knowledge, and they certainly didn't have months to consider all the possibilities to invent their own procedure to deal with a problem caused by a rogue system that was completely unknown, on the spot.

As I said, how very convenient for yanrair, but how highly inconvenient for the affected crews and their unfortunate passengers. Obviously, yanrair should have been there to help, with the benefit of all their expert knowledge of the future, which presumably would require some extraordinary psychic powers. What an amazing claim.

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