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Old 18th Sep 2019, 05:39
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[QUOTE=FlightDetent;10572486]Towards which I submit the following:

Recent comms by B.A. suggest an angle where the global achieved skill standard needs to be reviewed due to anecdotal evidence that assumptions about pilots capabilities the manufacturers and regulators hold are overly optimistic, upsets my stomach.

It actually is true, though. Namely, Ethiopean had 2 and LionAir too many to count. Still there's a bad tail about such win-win statements, subtly suggesting the Runaway Trim NNC was enough to keep souls alive. Flying brick it wasn't!

Our much beloved industry need Boeing to raise reborn out of all this, the ideas at the beginning of this thread need to be applauded and we all hold fingers crossed.[/QUOTE

Hmmm...

OK....


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And Air France had, let's see, an off at Toronto, a splash in the Atlantic, and a huge number of other events. There was the forest pruning at Habsheim, and Air Inters FPA vs FPM into Strasburg. Those were all Airbus products, not Boeing, (there are sundry antics with Boeing by AFR as well along the way, Delhi, Papeete come to mind). In the period since the Max had issues, non ET and JT planes have gone off the end of runways in countries that are considered first World, English speaking... and we have splashed one or two as re runs of one of the pointed commentary events.

Pan Am knew the 7 seas, they left debris in each one.

The pilots we have today are the product of the desires of the industry. The pilot is not responsible for a standard being great or otherwise.

Flying is a dynamic task, that requires engagement and participation by all concerned, not just the crew that get selected.

Not picking on Air France in particular... But it doesn't have a lost in translation issue, and assuming that the ills of the aviation world today is due to the pilot, 3rd World, Boeing, does not hold up to any level of scrutiny.

S. A. Maintenance is the pernicious, intractable issue, that dates back before the Red Baron took a. 303 round in a soft
​​spot. Fix the root problem, not the symptoms.

Other than in quantum physics, our universe has time flowing from before to after, so fix the root cause, which is not what most of the strident calls on this forum hold as causation.

Before. >>>>>>> not before

FD, if you think the ET crew didn't have a considerable HQ issue to deal with, which was not fully covered in the AD and NTC, then you should start reading the applicable threads again from the beginning, or have a chat with people who fly the737 or are involved in flight test involving HQ.

Your jet manages to kill competent people today, that aren't out of Sea or Africa, including for loss of control, remember Excel at Perpignan.?
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