Originally Posted by
hans brinker
Absolutely. Still, if cleared for the visual you are are either able or you tell the controller "unable" and get vectors for the ILS. Cathay accepted and screwed up,
Absolutely ! that is what we controllers do expect . Sadly that word seems to have vanished with the new magenta generation..
the controller sat and watched it happen...
You really think that once a ( any) clearance is issued and accepted we just sit there watching those 2 aircraft only to see if they comply ? Time to go and spend half an hour in a busy approach or center.
Which incidentally bring me back of one of the sad consequence of 9/11 : the suppression of Familiarization flights in cockpits by ATC.. You have today a full generation of controllers who have never visited an airliner cockpit or even talked to an airlines crew... Their only airborne experience might have been a single ride in a 172..
That could explain some might tell you to make a S turns to increase distance on a A350...