Exactly how many times were modern airliners spun in testing? Pretending that the simulator is realistic after stall AOA is a fantasy exercise. It wasn't until recently that Boeing and Airbus agreed to a generic narrow body stall characteristics. As one test pilot commented 'wide body characteristics are (can be?) different.' How did a common w/b stall in the sim? Very docile, just like the plane flies when it's not stalled. What did it actually do in testing? Rolled greater than 90 degrees. Did the manufacturer fix that post stall roll issue? IDK. We need to get aware from believing that old simulators accurately depicted post stall AOA characteristics just like we need to not believe that the current generic n/b stall characteristics and exactly how our non-generic airplane will behave in real life. It might be slightly different but the generic model is much closer to reality vs the old fantasy simulator flight characteristics after stall AOA model.