Instrument flight without the proper equipment, training, experience.....very bad Karma indeed.
Ran across this video on the subject this morning.....found it interesting but it had some good value for learning.
One bit of audio states research indicates 72 Seconds from entering cloud to loss of control when the situation in the first sentence of this post exists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ofS...rkIuJ28lmUFhPo