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Old 5th Aug 2019, 18:50
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Originally Posted by Wunwing
What was very clear from that brochure was that Ansett was sold the aircraft as a 3 man aircraft and that ORIGINALLY the aircraft was designed with a real panel installed. Ansett was possibly the 1st customer for the B767 which may explain why this was so?

Wunwing
United was the launch customer for the 767 (with P&W JT9D-7R4 engines). Delta and American were next, and were the launch customers for the GE CF6-80A engine. GE originally proposed a clipped fan CF6-6, but it didn't match Pratt on fuel burn - GE responded to the United order with the CF6-80A which had significantly better fuel burn than the JT9D - which in turn forced Pratt to do a redesign of the JT9D-7R4 (aka "Package B") that came along about a year after EIS to remain competitive.
As I've noted before, the original 767 design was for a 3 crew flight deck with a proper flight engineer panel and round dials - and the first six or seven aircraft were built that way. When the FAA decided that 2 crew was just as safe, everyone except Ansett changed to 2 crew with EICAS. So Ansett got some sort of bastardized flight deck with a ginned up flight engineer panel but full EICAS. No 767s were ever delivered with round dials for the pilots.

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