I’ve always thought we should have professional negotiators since I joined AIPA. However to be fair to the people who put in the time they are generally bashing their heads against a brick wall. You can only negotiate if the company are willing to, and Qantas isn’t, why would they? They like the short haul award as it is. The only two things they would want is contactability (something SH pilots won’t give up) and the ability to roster longer trips. Without forcing the companies hand, all the things the pilots want will never happen.