[QUOTE=tomuchwork;10513247]Controversial discussion.
. This was even more complicated when soley based on conventional navigation, nowadays everybody flies the magenta line, so buhu.
AFAIK departures in the US are mainly flown on (radar)headings(correct me if this is not the case anymore). If someone is not able to fly a complex SID in raw data it is barely legit to call them "best pilots"(which might apply for 90% of modern pilots to be honest). [QUOTE}
The majority are radar vectors. But it's not uncommon to fly RNP or SIDs that have turns, climbs, and restrictions on them in the U.S. LGA, DCA, LAX, DFW, ATL, all have non radar vector departures. Those are some of the busiest U.S. airports. Add in S. America, Europe, or Asia flying and having to fly SIDs or RNP departures is something U.S. line pilots see often enough.