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Old 1st Jun 2019, 14:08
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wrench1
 
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Originally Posted by dr dre
Debunked:...Again, hate to sound like a broken record but...:
And so do I. Without derailing this thread much more, I believe all points of view should remain heard, to include yours. But to me, "debunking" a point is more a emotional trait than a scientific trait. I prefer to stick with science.

Water Vapor: As of April 19th, NASA states:
"Water vapor is also the most important greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. [...] Thus, water vapor is a second source of warmth (in addition to sunlight) at the Earth's surface."
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/global-maps/MYDAL2_M_SKY_WV

CO2: While CO2 percentage wise is the 2nd largest greenhouse gas it pales in effect to methane and nitrous oxide, the 3rd and 4th greenhouse gases. Methane has up to 80 times the "global warming potential" than CO2 and N2O has about 25 times than CO2. Per NASA:
"Methane makes up just 0.00018 percent of the atmosphere, compared to 0.039 percent for carbon dioxide. (CO2 is roughly 200 times more abundant.) Yet scientists attribute about one-sixth of recent global warming to methane emissions; what methane lacks in volume it makes up for in potency."
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/fe...MethaneMatters
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And since you chose not to "debunk" the natural increase in population as a direct link to climate change, allow me to provide this. A recent study of human climate effects in the 1500-1600s found that the loss of 50+ million indignant peoples in the Americas caused a .15 C decrease in global air temperatures and lead to the start of the Little Ice Age. I don't believe anybody was burning fossil fuels on a large scale back then. So the current hypothesis is if 50 million people created a .15 C temperature increase by simply existing, how much of the current .8 C increase in the last 150 years can be attributed to the 6 billion population increase in that same time frame? But we won't have to wait long as there are a number of scientific studies looking at that same question. Strange though, one doesn't see this side on mainstream media... Cheers!
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...77379118307261
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