Originally Posted by
172510
I don't understand why you would need an ATPL rated pilot for the P2 to log.
According to EASA regulation
Either the aircraft is a multi pilot aircraft and then P1 must be ATPL rated and P2 must log,
or the aircraft is a single pilot aircraft and then
-either the operation manual requires the aircraft to be operated by a crew and then both pilot must be CPL rated and both must log,
-or the operation manual only requires one pilot and then only that pilot will log as there is no P2.
FCL.010 definitions
Multi-pilot helicopter’ means a helicopter which is required to be operated with a co-pilot as specified in the flight manual
or by the air operator certificate or equivalent document.
If the P2 is to log any hours then the helicopter must be a multi-pilot helicopter. A single-pilot certified helicopter can be operated multi-pilot on an AOC and therefore becomes a multi-pilot helicopter (with MP type rating and MCC requirements etc) - the AW169, AW139, S76 etc are all single-pilot certified helicopters operated as multi-pilot helicopters with MP type ratings offshore due to SPA.HOFO and OM requirements for the second pilot.
You can’t have it both ways. It’s either single-pilot and therefore P2 is not there as a pilot, or it’s multi-pilot and if operated for CAT the commander needs an ATPL.