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Old 27th Apr 2019, 06:59
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Originally Posted by LeadSled
M,
Hardly an in-depth analysis of who Pionair is, as opposed to who they were.
About the only thing that hasn't changed is the name.
Tootle pip!!
You reckon that the only thing that remains the same is the name?

Wrong. Try the opposite.

“Nothing has changed EXCEPT the name!” And by George have they mastered it!

The brainiacs you for some reason praise as being solvent, continue today despite them having an APPALLING track record of solvency – many former employee’s super funds with UNPAID FUNDS would stand with me to disagree with you when they look at their accounts. Lemme break the facts down for you of the Players’ Involvement:

1) Pionair Australia: 2 Administrations, 1 receivership, owing taxes & other creditors multi-millions. Directors & business remains.

2) MacAir: You guessed it! Another failed airline, former owner in that EIS pic.

3) Skyforce Aviation: Division of Pionair Liquidated owing millions in unpaid employee entitlements & other creditors (Super remains unpaid). Same Directors & Business as Pionair Australia

4) Skyforce Australia: ANOTHER division of Pionair, Liquidated less than a year into operations (Super remains unpaid). Same Directors & Business as Pionair Australia.

5) Pionair Charters: Started last year, same pattern? Is this going to be their latest Skyforce reinvention just with the BAE-146’s replacing Convairs as the loss-making aircraft of choice? How novel! Wonder how their super is tracking nowadays?

How is it possible, that these (in)solvency kings of our industry are involved as experts for any part of the E190-E2 project other than it’s swift wind up and establishment of top notch strategies to diddle the little guys involved of their owed retirement funds?

Find me a single mainstream media article on Pionair?? None! Maybe that’s how they prefer it, so they can keep saying and acting as if they are a startup with zero history and can keep reinventing their brand without consequence?

Will Air Kiribati mind waiting 3+ years <<after delivery>> for their first revenue flight? Sounds daft however is a critically pertinent question.

Remember their first BAE-146 G-ZAPN (now VH-SIF), not first of type, and not requiring them to upgrade to RPT, or conjure a BRAND NEW NZ AOC landed Bankstown 9 April 2013. There would have had to have been manuals, training, AOC approvals and other preparations before it landed. It’d be a closely managed process, right? That would be the bare minimum industry standard process from an expert organisation of industry heavyweights, right?

Wrong. Try the opposite.

It flew to Australia as a private flight and was a resident at Bankstown Airport for over 3 years.

3 Full Years and then some. Indisputable black & white, wheels on ground, FACT. That’s their credentials adding their latest to their AOC, Folks.

Their BAE-146 AOC was issued 6 July 2016. That’s 1184 days in Bankstown without an AOC. CASA must be laughing, or crying, or crying laughing at the incompetence of the revolving door of their “expert” team.

Their passenger aircraft BAE-146 G-ZAPK (now VH-SAZ) arrived 13 February 2018 and didn’t fly revenue passengers until August 30 2018! My source says their sales team had to cancel a series of contracts for the Commonwealth Games (March 2018) as their team couldn’t get the AOC pax upgrade done by agreed deadline. But 6 months late? Yep, stellar example of a bunch of top-notch industry-leading brainiacs yet again right there.

Anyone else spot a pattern? I wouldn't get these experts to wash a Cessna let alone set up an AOC for an E190-E2.

I heard they are in serious strife yet again and the industry is just waiting for their upcoming administration/liquidation, so the vultures can come pick over what, if anything, is left after lessors have extracted their dues. Again.

Surely you’d call stumps and move onto something else after this many failed attempts?

Air Kiribati and Embraer should “calmly yet swiftly make their way to the nearest emergency exit”. As was said earlier, if they don’t, they can keep the photo for the creditors meeting in the near future!
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