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Old 18th Apr 2019, 10:32
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset
I think as I said, you have to look at what is realistic and realistically those routes, even though they can be done, are not very realistic on a Q400. MXP especially so due to Alpine Driftdown but also routes over 2hrs on a Q400 would be very selective.



I didn't really say it's profitable to run the routes non based, I was saying that they have that option should they make money. The stark reality is they may not make money even using out of base aircraft and you'll see them dropped if that's the case. I know that BHD is of particular concern, however it may continue,it may not. The winter schedule when released will be the defining teller.
Amen to that, but looking at the CAA stats can you see the lost routes being viable options for airlines that will have to place more seating capacity on routes that are quite thin, especially for 156+ seat jets? Who knows.
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Interesting that you say BHD is a concern as i was told it's always been Flybe's most profitable route out of CWL. Just for context with BHD over an extra 30,000 passengers use the route compared to when it was daily it's currently 11 weekly.
As for the stats this is what Flybe carried out of CWL in 2018 excluding Guernsey, Newcastle and Anglesey as they are operated by other airlines. The seasonal routes have * next to them.
Belfast City 70,746
Edinburgh 101,671
Glasgow 33,261
Jersey 20,095
Paris CDG 75,402
Chambery 2709*
Berlin TXL 14,801
Dusseldorf 3235*
Munich 15,739
Cork 14,589
Dublin 104,890
Milan MXP 21,445
Rome FCO 17,584
Venice 8467*
Verona 8180*
Geneva 3213*
Faro 56,290 is shared with Ryanair who operate in the summer so for this exercise i'll guestimate 30,000 for Flybe on this route which is close to 2016s figure.
Rougly 540,000 people used Flybe from Cardiff in 2018 (i've allowed some discrepancy for rugby flights on Paris and Dublin).
That's roughly each aircraft carrying 180,000 passengers a year.

Hopefully those numbers will be attractive to airlines like Ryanair and Air France.
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