Originally Posted by
gums
Salute!
Attention flyingfalcon!
We give up. We do not know what you want to hear, but for now I feel most here will let you continue to believe that trim affects speed and attitude. We have tried to erxplain AoA and attitude and reference systems and so forth. As planes became less and less like the WWI and early WW2 planes, the AoA versus Coeff of lift plot became less steep. The tendency to return to the "trimmed" AoA decreased. But given time, the plane would return to the trimmed AoA that is normally associated with one gee level flight speed.
The TRIM ON ALL BUT FBW SYSTEMS LIKE THE F-16 OR AIRBUS ATTEMPTS TO RETURN THE AIRCRAFT TO THE ANGLE OF ATTACK THAT IT IS TRIMMED FOR BEFORE AN UPSET OR CHANGE IN POWER. If that changes the pitch attitude with respect to the horizon, then BFD. So we give up and you win.
So let's move on, huh?
Gums sends...
Thanks for your further explanation. And yes let's move on.
I have a separate question: Does anyone familiar with test piloting these crafts know that, before there is testing in the sims with airliner pilots. Is there actually a phase of testing that involves a pilot going up in the Max with the exact knowledge and training the airliner pilots will have (such that they wouldn't get any briefing on the MCAS)? Possibly with simulated load factors / weight of real cargo and passengers, ideally with even simulated changes in CoG from moving passengers throughout flight?