As I said, machtuk, I'm just an outsider looking in at the absolute hash that VA have made of TT, so can't comment on what happens on the inside. But put it this way, if what we see on the outside reflects even a bit of what's happening on the inside, then the poor girls and blokes on the front line need a lot of help. Borg's isn't going to do it in his last few weeks, so over to Scurrah.