further digging around in the freeview box menus has revealed a manual connect mode which asks for IP address, subnet mask, default gateway, primary DNS and secondary DNS. I don't have a clue what it is looking for or how to find the numbers needed. The freeview box doesn't do wireless connections so the id and password issue doesn't arise. Downlink and uplink connections are logical to me. The second router cable is into one of the 4 output ports on the primary router and to the modem input connection of the secondary router. Every thing else just connects when plugged in or wirelessly (with password) linked.
If I pull the cable from the input of the secondary router and poke it into the freeview box it gives me a load of addresses for the above items and connects to the internet. Does this give me any help with the address numbers when the secondary router is in the chain?
Rans6.............