Originally Posted by
escaped.atco
And I'm not sure its as clear cut as that either. The glaring issue is going to be the actual controllers again, I know they are an inconvenience and and expensive nuisance BUT at this stage of the game they're still needed. Lets say ACME have the contract, they're in a portacabin far far away from the airport to the north for example. The airport decide to change to NITS Solutions but their portacabin is also far far away to the south for example. The controllers working for ACME realise that NITS Solutions are a bunch of cowboys that they don't want to work for, how then is NITS Solutions going to satisfy the problem of having actual people to run the show? They may well have all the toys, they may well have the means of ensuring data links are secure and all the cost that goes with that but with no controllers they don't really have a runner. As much as the regulator role has diluted and become a rubber stamping exercise depending on the paperwork that has been produced, I really can't imagine a scenario where they would think 20+ green field validations is safe. Plus I can't imagine any airport being keen on the media getting wind that they've employee a brand new ANSP with sweet FA experience other than sims all to save a few quid. The other point, and I apologise now for bringing it up, is brexit. How will remote towers play out if they are in vastly different jurisdictions. Can you imagine Jose in Madrid getting a green field validation in Cardiff having never worked there or experienced the airport in his life?
I know times are getting desperate but surely sanity and common sense has to still be considered. Or maybe someone has done an APSA and decided that neither of the aforementioned have any part to play when it comes to profits and cost cutting. I really am old and cynical, must go and take my meds!
Ha! Common sense disappeared a long time ago, and sadly controllers have been complicit in that.
My example was just to show that just because the control console is miles away from the airport, it doesn’t make it any more difficult for the airport to change ANSP. Yes, I can certainly imagine an ATCO in a remote tower centre in Madrid getting a validation at a UK airfield, the ANSP s/he works for only has to get UK ANSP accreditation from the UK CAA. Not difficult. There’s an ATC training provider in Spain churning out trainees for the UK right now. Not much more work to wholly conduct that training offshore. DFS have also been approved to conduct UK ATC training in Langen, have they not?