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Old 25th Feb 2019, 19:51
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Originally Posted by derjodel
So Fly Dubai, Lion Air and now Atlas all share:
- Boeing airplane
- Nosedive

Lion Air is probably an outlier, but then again, what if all 3 have trim management in common? Because at least Lion and FlyDubai do.

In Addition Fly Dubai and Atlas both share low visibility and approach/final, right? And somebody mentioned constant speed. It seems Atlas air was actually slowing down and FlyDubai was just slightly accelerating, both despite nose down, if FR data is to be trusted (can't post links, sorry).

Seems like some kind of a pattern, doesn't it?

your examples also share other characteristics:

1. built after Dec 17, 1903
2. had paint on the outside
3. had people and stuff on the inside
4. took off
5. had wings
6. had engines

yep, theres a definite pattern there.

FZ981 was a disorientation event following a GA in wind shear.
Lion Air 610 has indications of sensor failure leading to loss of control for unknown reasons at this time.

FZ approach was not low viz, with an GA due wind shear according to the interim report. Fedex was at 6000', starting the approach, and the weather at the field itself was clear, the line of weather on the approach that the aircraft entered was well away from the airport.

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