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Old 12th Jan 2019, 17:24
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Krystal n chips
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
I have been in a situation a couple of times where we have had a cliff -edge moment but we didn't. At the stroke of midnight the game changed; we didn't have a rule book for the new game.

We just carried on as before applying most of the old rules. Soon some rules were adapted, some rules were maintained unchanged, some old rules were either irrelevant or ignored. Over time new rules were created, obsolete rules were abandoned, and some adapted rules were adopted.

Why would we immediately abandon good H&S rules or working practices? Things like the minimum wage are British anyway. What reason is there for an emergency budget, apart from the previous Chancellor's project fear? Freed from Brussels, the Government could even change the VAT rate on some products below the EU floor of 15%.

Goods presenting at Dover do not have to suffer inbound delays, that is entirely under our control. Are all the goods entering UK on 29th March suddenly becoming contraband on the 30th? There is no difference at Dover from the open border from Ireland.

If the Manston lorry park becomes full from outbound traffic delayed at Calais or Sandgate that is the EU, not us.

In short, lots of waffle in Parliament is about what ifs.
Unfortunately, you have led a rather sanitised working life. In the real world, there are numerous employers / "management " who currently even now only pay lip service to H n S and working practices, The issue of working practices in particular, or should that be terms and conditions, is highly likely to be seriously affected once we leave the EU and become reliant on UK law to support grievances and working conditions.

As for nothing much changing at Dover, despite the farce at Manston last week, there is more than growing concern as to the logistical nightmares that will ensue, not simply regarding transportation, but also the supply chain manufacturers and distributors. Why else do you think, and please, don't recourse to the now out dated "project fear " mantra because many of the concerns are based on tangible evidence and analysis, even this lethargic Gov't has suddenly decided to inform the electorate of contingency planning.

As for Hammond, you may recall he mentioned in his last budget something about another budget being required should no deal be reached....he also mentioned something about lower income streams.

Anyway, have a look at this may recall it ?.....and note in particular the reference to " amend, repeal and improve ".......and guess what, non of those criteria will be beneficial for millions of workers in the UK.
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