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Old 4th Dec 2018, 19:47
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Originally Posted by FlightDetent
I agree with the question. If reduced thrust is not approved due to unpredictable effects of the contaminant, and thus the regulator says - economies aside, full thrust please! ..... Derates being allowed simultaneously: it does not seem to follow the same logic.

The fact that you could lift even more with DRT compared to TOGA scenario (which is well understood and accepted) feels ironic as we get:
- a heavier aircraft and
- less thrust at the same time,
rolling over a surface with characteristics so suspect the regulations demand TOGA in the AST/FLEX case. Uneven judgement?
Derate is not the same as assumed temperature at all, therefore there are different rules around it. Derate is basically the same as bolting a different engine under your wing, the maximum thrust is different, the Vmcg/Vmca is different. And the lower Vmcg is actually the important point here, it allows a lower V1, which is kinda important when stopping is more difficult than continuing. Which is what is assumed in the case of a contaminated runway.
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