Originally Posted by
MickG0105
Where #2 was
There is no mention, vague or otherwise, of the trim problem or the requirement to disable both electric trim systems in 'the [Aircraft Flight Maintenance] log'. There was a reference to the Speed Trim System '... running to the wrong direction, suspected because of speed difference ...' in an entry made through the Company's A-SHOR electronic reporting system. At this stage we don't know who got to see that report.
What is notable from the A-SHOR report is that the use of the Airspeed Unreliable and ALT DISAGREE NNCs is mentioned but not the use of the Runaway Stabilizer NNC.
It is pretty clear that the KNKT has a clear cut view on whether JT43 should have continued on to Jakarta after having to disable the electric trim and with a stick shaker active. I have not yet found one commercial pilot who would have pressed on under similar circumstances. From an admittedly small but highly experienced pool, all of them have made it clear that they would have returned to Denpasar. It was interesting that the JT43 PIC appears to have noted that none of the three NNCs he ran contained the instruction “Plan to land at the nearest suitable airport”.
I'd be interested to see what Lion Air company policy states on such matters.
They already delay long enough,
There;s two flight DPS to CGK that night. both have almost same time departure after delayed.
JT33 PK-LJJ
Departure: Scheduled: 18:15 (10:15 UTC) Actual: 22:12 (14:12 UTC) 237 min delayed
Arrival: Scheduled: 19:10 (12:10 UTC) Actual: 22:37 (15:37 UTC) 207 min delayed
JT43 PK-LQP
Departure:
Scheduled: 19:30 (11:30 UTC) Actual: 22:21 (14:21 UTC) 171 min delayed
Arrival: Scheduled: 20:20 (13:20 UTC) Actual: 22:56 (15:56 UTC) 156 min delayed
Since there's almost same time departure, there is some misinformation that JT33 was PK-LQP, on Instagram story @nindypermatas via website: belitung.tribunnews.com/2018/10/29/warganet-ini-bagikan-pengalaman-naik-lion-air-jt610-sebut-ada-masalah-pada-penerbangan-sebelumnya
I detected that she was on 18.15 plane --> JT33. Its not the PK-LQP one.
The true of the JT43 pax story was based on website: tribunnews.com/regional/2018/11/01/pengakuan-penumpang-lion-air-pk-lqp-denpasar-jakarta-semua-teriak-allahuakbar.
JT43 was late also. almost two hours said Supriyanto Sudarto, one of the pax.
the pax already inside the plane. however still some people surrounding the plane body. Those people looks busy and getting into the plane.
After flight there is some flight altitude problem, abrupt down and going up, down again, up again.
Then one of the (presumably) pilot take something from the briefcase.
Its already late long and night, if the plane divert to DPS, then they need to provide hotel to the pax. Too Costly maybe.
The PK-LQP was landed at DPS before as JT775
Scheduled Arrival 09:10 (01:10 UTC) Actual 10:10 (02:10 UTC)
Plenty time to fix AOA sensor
Source:
planefinder.net/data/aircraft/PK-LQP
flightera.net/flight_details/Lion+Air/JT43/WADD/2018-10-28
flightera.net/flight/Lion+Air/JT775?offset=20181031#flight_list