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Old 25th Nov 2018, 20:43
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Originally Posted by Copenhagen


What value do you see in it for Virgin?

Whatever happens, the other UK regional carriers can pick up other profitable routes.
A question on that point, if a potential buyer wants to do due diligence what access to they get to the financials? Obviously there are the published accounts but do they get commercial sensitive information about bases/individual routes?

Just for a bit of information to give an idea of their current operation I have tried to note down the First wave of departures tomorrow morning and it makes interesting reading in parts. The usual disclaimers none more so than I can't say if it is definitive but I have used various public domain websites such as Jethro's for operational aircraft and FR24.

I found 57 departures and a maximum 75 aircraft in service (actually 69 left as I had included one DH8D not in sevice and included the Stobart 195's) of which one E175 has been at Exeter since 4 November, a Dash 8 at Exeter since 13-11 (PD), one since 18-11 (PI), one since 22-11 (OK), one at BHX since 22-11 (OR) and another at Exeter since 23-11 (DR). Up until 19.00 57 aircraft had moved today and around 3 or 4 extra yesterday. This is just Flybe mainline not Eastern or Blue Island flights or aircraft or the Stobart Southend operation.

This shows they have a lot of spare aircraft and do we know how many are owned and how many leased? This seems incredibly high even for winter which in terms of the BHX base is not particularly off-peak and in fact next week the base is back to 11 aircraft with Milan and Berlin going back to double daily on certain days for the first 3 weeks in December. Also noticeable that the jets all move regularly other than E175 "JI" which is clearly in maintenance.

For those debating what is in it for the airlines rumoured to be interested, these are tomorrow's flights - first wave only and I believe there are no overnighting mainline aircraft at Dublin, Inverness, Newcastle, Leeds, Liverpool, East Mids, Norwich, London City, Heathrow, Gatwick, Jersey, Guernsey, Amsterdam or Paris. Any additions and corrections most welcome. Formatting as usual on this site a nightmare.

Airport...….... Based Aircraft.....Time:Route…....Time:Route…....Time:Route…....Time:Route………..Time:Route
Aberdeen.........3..................…07:05 BHX...…….07:05 LHR...…..06:35 MAN...…..
Belfast City...…7...............…...07:00 BHX......…..07:15 EMA...….07:10 EDI...........07:20 GLA............06:40 LBA.
.........…........................……….
06:45 LCY...……..06:50 MAN
BHX...…........10..................….06:55 AMS...…….08:00 AMS...….07:35 BHD.........07:00 DUS...….....07:00 EDI.
...........................................….
07:00 GLA...…....07:15 JER...…..06:45 MXP.........06:40 CDG...…....07:20 STR......11th next week TXL 07:25
Cardiff......…...3.................……06:40 EDI.........…06:20 BHD.......07:00 DUB
Doncaster.......1......................06:50 DUB
Dusseldorf.....2.......................06:30 BHX.........…06:50 LCY
Edinburgh.......8..................….07:20 BHD...……..07:00 BHX...….07:20 EMA...…..06:35 LCY......…..07:05 LCY
..............................................
06:20 LHR..........06:35 MAN......06:40 SOU.
Exeter...……...5................…….07:10 JER.........….07:00 LCY......06:40 MAN.........07:25 AGP......…..06:30 CDG
Glasgow.........4..............……..06:50 BHX......…..07:05 EMA.......06:50 MAN...…..07:00 SOU
Manchester.....6.....
…...........….06:45 ABZ............06:55 AMS...….07:00 BHD........07.00 DUS.........06.10 CDG
..........................................….
06:50 CDG
Newquay...…..1........................07:25 NQY
Southampton..7........................07:00 AMS...…...07:00 BHD...….06:50 DUB.........07:00 EDI...……..06:45 MAN
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07:00 NCL...…...06:50 CDG
Total...……....57


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