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Old 21st Nov 2018, 13:29
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underfire
 
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I dont think the 96x96 will ever be used. ATC certainly wont figure that out. Currently working with Thales to add the separation matrix to the ATC system. This will work with the flow manager for arrival, and the departure manager. The system will adjust the flow manager to affect the frequency of the arrival based on wake conditions.This will work abck through the system to enroute.
On the screen, there are 2 features, a moving dot on the approach path for intercept target, and a cone behind each ac for the min wake separation. Interesting that US based the cone is one way and it is opposite for ICAO based, go figure.

How does an encounter become less serious if the following flight crew expect it?
When the crew is ready for it, the adventure is much less of an adventure. Higher thrust setting and according flap setting. LHR is a natural example with the ARR speeds higher than most. I feel that this at least minimizes the wake effect.

Interestingly enough, on Sunday, DEP from SEA, in A321, hit a hell of a wake at about 300 AGL. just after rotate, rolled left then right, bouncing the whole way.. about 2 mins behind A320 sharklet. Ac was all over the place.

Currently looking at a more refined definition of simply wingspan/weight, using wing loading, as I have seen very strong wakes from smaller ac. I am looking at weight and wing area, (not simply wingspan) and wing shape. As noted before, as an example, the variable upswept geometry of an ac like the 787...
As examples: Wing area loading
A380: MTOW/845 sq m is 680 kg/ sq m
B747: MTOW / 511 sq m is 652 kg/sq m
B789: MTOW/360 sq m is 705 kg/sq m
B757: MTOW/376 sq m is 678 kg/sq m

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