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Old 13th Nov 2018, 10:53
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Originally Posted by SASless
When you learn to fly the Sim....your performance improves in the flying of the Sim.

That proficiency does not transfer directly to the actual aircraft.

Question for you.....if your aircraft can provide you say.....110% Nr or 120% Nr during autorotation.....would you require the Pilot to drag it down with Collective to 100% during a real EOL?
SAS I would disagree with your first statement above, however, tempered with the fact that I generally take students from the FSTD to the Helicopter during consolidation. I definitely see these skills translate directly to the helicopter especially the Auto entry. Where the "Transport Delay" is most evident is in hovering manoeuvres. If the Transport Delay is large enough, it can ill-prepare the student for the real helicopter.

On your second point...as always you find the sticky nugget at the bottom of the sweety jar. True, FSTDs generally will "Crash" if the NR exceeds a nominal number. In the real world, where the helicopter has already let you down, would it matter if the NR is oversped during the Auto or indeed the EOL? Answers on a postcard please.
On your second aspect, NR is vital at the Flare point I think we all agree on this. Too much.....I am not sure of this matters. Too little, well we can all understand that.
What I recommend is that the NR is at least 100% at the flare point. However, in my last FSTD sabbatical, carrying too much NR into the Flare, caused the FSTD to crash as the flare effect took the NR beyond the FSTD Crash limit. Negative Training???? Maybe. Briefing this out helps but its a feature of the last FSTD I worked on.

I asked for the crash NR limit to be removed for EOLs but was told "there has to be a limit" We learned to training successfully and live with it.

I would be interested on your thoughts on this though.
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