And some pax are witless. Work colleague had heart issues and doctor advised not to travel overseas. He went anyway, to the US, had medical issue there and decided to return to Oz because of the medical financial implications inherent in staying in the US. Didn't make it, died enroute. Nice guy too, but made poor choices after being given good advice. This thread comes on top of the lass who died from an asthma attack while on board and some posters were giving the crew a hiding over their actions. You and I were not there, give the crews a break, they do their best in trying circumstances, in the two cases I cite, the pax knew they had problems prior to boarding, how about a little responsibility there? Perhaps airlines should be giving pax a full medical prior to boarding - just kidding.