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Old 17th Oct 2018, 01:42
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underfire
 
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Automate all landings.
You can have RNAV or RNAV/RNP visual approaches...next best thing, automation and a visual minima.

That's not really what they saw, they were lined up on the taxyway as we know; this image is lined up on the runway. Different perspective. Would be good to see it.presumably the X loses its prominence the more to one side of it you are, likewise the approach lighting.
Umm, the point is the big white line of lights leading you to the end of the runway?!

The further out, even if on the taxiway, the 'X" and the runway lights should be pretty evident.

Is this better (from the magic of the internet)..




or this.... would seeing the runway approach lights out the left window be a bit of a clue? (at this point they still didnt even consider GA)



It says lateral guidance via the localizer should supplement visual approach procedures. Are you current on the Air Bus? If so, could you expand on whether this capability exists?
I know it works for RNP approach when we validate, it is compared with the ILS as backup. Then again, I have not been on a validation exercise with an ac without GPS.

The crew did not 'miss those approach lights' - they assumed that they were the approach lights to 26L and that the taxiway to its right was the runway.
If they had flown into SFO when both were active, or even checked the chart, they would see that the approach lights for L are different than R. Even so, no approach lights?
(and VASI?)


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