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Old 11th Oct 2018, 00:38
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Originally Posted by itsnotthatbloodyhard


Thank you. I’d suggest it was rather disingenuous to claim that CASA grounded the airline prior to the lockout commencing, when the grounding was very much Alan’s own work (irrespective of whether CASA then prolonged the grounding a little longer than Alan expected). You’re right that no QF pilot was actually locked out, but under the circumstances, being grounded due to industrial action, versus being locked out due to industrial action, amounted to little more than semantics.







on the contrary.
a lot of Qf pilots believe they were locked out and are seriously affronted by that.
if they say they are affronted because they were threatened with being locked out or that they are affronted because they were served with papers notifying a lockout, they are on solid ground.
BUT to say they were actualy locked out is not correct which was my original point.
Let’s call a spade a spade. AJ took a dramatic step and grounded the airline. It was his only option other than to agree to union demands under FWC laws. It didn’t totally go the way he planned.
The result was 3 troublesome unions neutered. 3 EBA imposed arbitrations that couldn’t be regarded as wins for any group.
SP and TS rode off into the sunset to lick their wounds.Both rarely seen on TV for the past six years wheras they were always on the news before criticising everything Qf did.
No significant successful opposition to the mass redundancies especially with the Engineering department and to a lesser extent the TWU areas. All pilot redundancies were voluntary.
6 years have passed and AJ has had no union trouble from the TWU, AALEA or AIPA or for that matter from any other union.
big price to pay in the grounding.
was it worth it?
only he knows?

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